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MessageSujet: The Storm of Chaos. They think its all over ....   The Storm of Chaos. They think its all over .... Icon_minitimeLun 1 Oct 2012 - 11:31

Quelques rumeurs sur la sortie prochaine des Guerriers du Chaos!


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Updates for existing models¨
For the three latest releases, the entire model range has been available in either plastic or resin apart from the old classic model (ex: Zacharias on Zombie Dragon, presumably because there was little interest in converting him to resin when there is a new plastic Zombie Dragon out). Assuming that this trend continues, the following changes would need to be made:

- Lords of Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch and Nurgle on various daemonic mounts: Resin (almost certainly) or plastic (unlikely)
- Champions of Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch and Nurgle on foot: Resin or plastic (either equally likely)
- Sigvald and Wulfrik: Resin
- unmarked Sorcerer on foot: Resin (most likely as there is already a plastic version)
- Nurgle Sorcerer on foot: Resin or plastic (either equally likely)
- unmarked Sorcerer on steed: Resin (most likely) or plastic (possible)
- Dechala: Resin or kept as metal

- Galrauch / Chaos Dragon: Plastic (most likely) or no new model and a plastic version released later (unlikely). Presumably the plastic Dragon would have the option for variant riders or be kept unridden to represent Galrauch. It may or may not include parts for a plastic special character rider (likely to be the old Engrim van Horstmann if so).

- Chaos Chariot / Warshrine: Plastic (almost certainly). Obvious candidate for a plastic kit as the current chariot model is very, very old. The description of the Warshrine makes it likely that the kit will build either model, but it may also be that there will be two plastic models based on the same basic design (as with the Empire War Alter and Wizard Wagon kits). It has been suggested that there may be variant creatures pulling the chariot and if the two get separate kits, then this is likely. Presumably it would be a Daemonic steed of some sort.

- Chosen: Resin (most likely) or plastic (less likely). With the amount of units needing to be redone, it is most likely that this unit will be converted to resin now and then later there will be a new plastic kit that makes Warriors or Chosen.

- Chaos Ogres: Resin (most likely) or plastic (less likely). Similarity to the "normal" Ogres suggest that these will be converted to resin and get a plastic kit at some later date.

- Chaos Trolls: see Chaos Ogres

- Dragon Ogres: Plastic (most likely) or resin (less likely). The Dragon Ogres are very old models and no models exist to cover the additional hand weapon upgrade, thus it is likely that these will get a new plastic kit. The kit will most likely be 3 models and may or may not include new options the unit doesn't currently have (ex: standard bearer, musician, shields, etc.).

- Scyla: Resin (almost certainly)


In summary, these kits are most likely to be made into plastic:
- Chaos Dragon / Galrauch
- Chariot / Warshrine
- Dragon Ogres
It is unlikely but not impossible that there will be updates for existing plastic kits (Warriors or Marauders), but presumably this will happen later and not at the release of the book.


Existing units with no models
With the three latest releases, all units and characters have gotten models released for them when the book came out. With the two first 8th edition books, this is not the case (ex: There is still no Hierotitan model and it took quite a while before the Mangler Squig model was released), so we can't be certain of this.

- Forsaken: Plastic (most likely) or resin (less likely). The unit's rules are miserable and there are no existing models, so it is likely that there will be some improvement in at least one area here.

- Warshrine: (see Chaos Chariot entry above)

- Kholek: Unlikely to get a model at the moment, though when there is eventually a Shaggoth plastic kit, it is likely that this will include optional parts for Kholek.

- Valkia, Vilitch, Festus, Throgg: May or may not get resin models.


Brand new units
There is a trend for new army books to get at least three brand new units added to the list, though these have not lacked models for existing units (WoC lack both Forsaken and Warshrines), so we don't know. Traditionally, it has been very difficult or impossible to guess at exactly what these units will be. For the last four books, Sphinxes and Demigriffon Knights have been expected, while Sepulchral Stalkers, Necropolis Knights, Hierotitans, Coven Thrones, Mortis Engines, Hexwraiths, Crypt Horrors, Vargheists, Celestial Hurricanums and Luminarchs of Hysh have not (until someone got a look at the models).
Thus while we can all guess at Chosen Knights riding Daemonic Mounts, don't be surprised if this doesn't happen.

Voilà pour les figurines. Dans l'ensemble, une gamme qui va être refaite en plastique/finecrap, de nouvelles figurines de persos, sans doute un Dragon... D'après les rumeurs, il y a un gros focus sur Archaon dont la fig a été refaite, semble magnifique et dotée d'une option montée et d'une option à pied!


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-The Storm of Chaos. They think its all over .... (Harry)
Archaon has been redone and his story will be the backbone of the storyline for the new book. It will look at his re-emergence from the chaos waste and the gathering of another Army to march upon the Empire.
-The book will also focus more on several of the larger tribes. Not a huge focus, just some background stories.
-We will see a real Germanic feel with the book, in regards to the savage marauding tribes.
-There will also be renewed focus on the Chaos Gods and independent heroes for each one of them. People will be able to tailor their Army to run on a single God easier than before. (Birdy via Harry)
-Krom is in the book. (MsDarkness)
-Van Horstmann in as a special character can use Light and Tzeentch magic. (MsDarkness)
-Van Horstmann gets a lot of attention in the new book. (Birdy via Harry)


Une petite note au sujet de la cavalerie monstrueuse. Les Brass Knights de Khorne sont les plus probables des Elus sur monture monstrueuse. Les Rot Knights de Nurgle ont déjà un profil FW et sont donc de bons candidats.

Niveau règle, les rumeurs parlent de quelque chose comme ça:

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*all models will of course count as Monstrous Cavalry, and be W(2).
*Khorne, Nurgle & Undivided will have impact hits (1).
*Slaanessh to move as Fast Cav
*Tzeentch be like Pegasus Knights, and gain Vanguard.


Je n'épiloguerait pas sur les touches d'impact, ni les Juggernauts ni les Rot Knights actuels n'ont de touches d'impact. BREF. :sarcastic:

Pour ce qui est de Slaanesh... Cavalerie Monstrueuse + Cavalerie Légère? J'ai un sérieux doute sur cette rumeur-là. Déjà, la cavalerie monstrueuse fait moyen Slaanesh à mon sens, même en cavalerie légère. Et de la cavalerie légère monstrueuse, je suis le seul que ça fait tiquer? :noel:


Tzeentch avec des Chevaliers Pégase-like me parait une bonne idée, mais une fois de plus POURQUOI ça serait de la cavalerie monstrueuse? :doute:


Bref, les rumeurs sur la cavalerie monstrueuse sont à prendre avec des pincettes. Pour le renouvellement de la gamme, il s'agit d'informations relativement fiables.
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La partie sur la cavalerie monstrueuse me fait tiquer, si ils la sort pour Battle je trouve ça dommage de pas en faire profiter 40K. Du coup ça mériterai un supplément dwarf à la sortie e ces gurines pour coller les règles de Marine sur Jugger et autre.
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MessageSujet: Re: The Storm of Chaos. They think its all over ....   The Storm of Chaos. They think its all over .... Icon_minitimeMar 2 Oct 2012 - 11:24

D'après les rumeurs, le kit Brass Knight pourra être assemblé avec un Guerrier du Chaos ou Berserk de Khorne. Kit double pour les deux univers donc.
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Mouai du coup, ça me fait une réaction assez mitigée... d'un coté c'est cool d'avoir des berserks sur Juggernaut sans avoir à prendre des alliés Space SàP, d'un autre coté... pourquoi c'est pas direct dans le codex? Vu que le tout va sans doute sortir à un mois/un mois et demi d'intervalle avec le dex SMC...
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Images des nouveauté et... je trouve ça très moche... Non mais sérieux, regardez la pose des jambes des types de Slaanesh... A part Valkia qui est assez classe et les juggeranut (sans les cavaliers) y a pas grand chose à sauver dans ces gurines.

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Sorry, this person moved or deleted this image. :noel:
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